1 Haziran 2012 Cuma

Discrepancies in the Old Testament


DISCREPANCIES IN THE OLD TESTAMENT,
SAME SUBJECT BUT DIFFERENT EXPRESSIONS




·     Did God “Have a rest” or Doesn’t He Grow Weary?

“He had a rest” 

“...he rested on the seventh day from all the work that he had done” [1]

“He doesn’t grow weary”  

“Have you not known? Have you not heard? The Lord is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth. He does not faint or grow weary …”[2]
 
·     Does God belong to “Jews” or to “Everyone?

He belongs to Jews 

“Now I know that there is no God in all the earth except in Israel …”[3]
 
He belongs to everyone.   
 “Or is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also...”[4]
 
·     Did God “regret” or “not”?

(Three different views in the same chapter)

“The word of the Lord came to Samuel: ‘I regret that I made Saul king…”[5] … “And Samuel said to him (Saul): “….the Glory of Israel will not recant or change his mind[6]; for he is not a mortal, that he should change his mind. …”[7] … “And the Lord was sorry that he had made Saul king over Israel ...”[8]
 
·     God’s being heard- seen

He has been heard and seen 

“Look, the Lord our God has shown us his glory and greatness, and we have heard his voice out of the fire. Today we have seen that God may speak to someone and the person may still live”…” [9] “So Jacob called the place Peniel, saying, ‘For I have seen God face to face, and yet my life is preserved.’”[10]
 
He cannot be heard or seen 

“...You have never heard his voice or seen his form.”[11]
 
·     God’s sleeping

“He awoke from sleep” 

“Then the Lord awoke as from sleep, like a warrior...”[12]
 
“He will neither slumber not sleep” 

“… he who keeps you will not slumber. He who keeps Israel will neither slumber nor sleep. The Lord is your keeper… ”[13]

·     Are the children responsible or not?

They are responsible 
 
“I am Lord… visiting the iniquity of the parents upon the children and the children’s children, to the third and the fourth generation.”[14]
 
They aren’t responsible

 “A child shall not suffer for the iniquity of a parent, nor a parent suffer for the iniquity of a child; the righteousness of the righteous shall be his own, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be his own.”[15]
 
·     Adam lived for a thousand years although he was said to be died immediately after eating from the prohibited tree.

“And the Lord God commanded the man, ‘… but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall die”[16]  … “The man said, ‘… she gave me fruit from the tree, and I ate.”[17] …“Thus all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years; and he died.”[18]

·     The number of people who were taken to the ship during the flood.[19]

Two of every kind

 “And of every living thing, of all flesh, you shall bring two of every kind into the ark, to keep them alive with you; they shall be male and female. Of the birds according to their kinds, and of the animals according to their kinds, of every creeping thing of the ground according to its kind, two of every kind shall come in to you, to keep them alive.”[20]
 
Seven pairs of all clean animals, a pair of all unclean animals, seven pairs of the birds  

“Take with you seven pairs of all clean animals, the male and its mate; and a pair of the animals that are not clean, the male and its mate; and seven pairs of the birds of the air also, male and female, to keep their kind alive on the face of all the earth.”[21]


·        Birthright [25]
Decision of God 

“Isaac prayed to the Lord for his wife, because she was barren; and the Lord granted his prayer, and his wife Rebekah conceived. … And the Lord said to her, ‘Two nations are in your womb, and two peoples born of you shall be divided; one shall be stronger than the other, the elder shall serve the younger.’ When her time to give birth was at hand, there were twins in her womb. The first came out red … they named him Esau. Afterwards his brother came out … he was named Jacob.”[26]  

Esau sold his right to his brother Jacob 

“Jacob said, ‘First sell me your birthright.’ Esau said, ‘I am about to die; of what use is a birthright to me?’ Jacob said, ‘Swear to me first.’ So he swore to him, and sold his birthright to Jacob. Then Jacob gave Esau bread and lentil stew, and he ate and drank, and rose and went his way. Thus Esau despised his birthright.”[27]
 
Jacob has taken Esau’s blessing deceitfully 

“So he (Jacob) went in to his father, and said, ‘My father’; and he said, ‘Here I am; who are you, my son?’ Jacob said to his father, ‘I am Esau your firstborn. I have done as you told me; now sit up and eat of my game, so that you may bless me.’…‘The voice is Jacob’s voice, but the hands are the hands of Esau.’ He did not recognize him … so he blessed him … when Jacob had scarcely gone out from the presence of his father Isaac, his brother Esau came in from his hunting … Then Isaac trembled violently and he said, ‘Your brother came deceitfully, and he has taken away your blessing.”[28]
 
·     The woman to whom Esau married.

Ishmael’s daughter Mahalath 

“Esau went to Ishmael and took Mahalath daughter of Abraham’s son Ishmael, and sister of Nebaioth, to be his wife in addition to the wives he had.”[29]  

Ishmael’s daughter Basemath and Elon’s daughter Adah 

“Esau took his wives from the Canaanites: Adah daughter of Elon the Hittite and … Basemath, Ishmael’s daughter, sister of Nebaioth.”[30]  

Elon’s daughter Basemath 

“When Esau was forty years old, he married … Basemath daughter of Elon the Hittite.”[31]  

·     People who sold Joseph in Egypt

Ishmaelites 

“When some Midianite traders passed by, they drew Joseph up, lifting him out of the pit, and sold him to the Ishmaelites for twenty pieces of silver. And they took Joseph to Egypt.”[32]
 
Midianites  

“Meanwhile the Midianites had sold him in Egypt to Potiphar, one of Pharaoh’s officials...”[33]
 
·     Name of Moses’ father-in-law

Reuel 

“The priest of Midian had seven daughters … Moses got up and came to their defence and watered their flock. When they returned to their father Reuel … Moses agreed to stay with the man, and he gave Moses his daughter Zipporah in marriage.”[34]
 
Jethro  

“Moses was keeping the flock of his father-in-law Jethro...”[35]
 
Hobab son of Reuel  

“Moses said to Hobab son of Reuel the Midianite, Moses’ father-in-law …”[36]

·     Was God seen by Moses or not?[37]

“Lord speak to Moses face to face” 

“Thus the Lord used to speak to Moses face to face, as one speaks to a friend.”[38]

“You cannot see my face”
“But’, he said, ‘you cannot see my face; for no one shall see me and live”[39]
·     For how many days should unleavened bread be eaten?

Seven days 

“You shall keep the festival of unleavened bread. For seven days you shall eat unleavened bread …”[40]
 
Six days 

“For six days you shall continue to eat unleavened bread,[41]  

·        The things to be given to Levites  

“48 towns” 

“The towns that you give to the Levites shall include the six cities of refuge, where you shall permit a slayer to flee, and in addition to them you shall give forty-two towns. The towns that you give to the Levites shall total forty-eight, with their pasture lands.”[42]

“Nothing but sacrifices” 

“The levitical priests, the whole tribe of Levi, shall have no allotment or inheritance within Israel. They may eat the sacrifices that are the Lord’s portion but they shall have no inheritance among the other members of the community; the Lord is their inheritance, as he promised them.”[43]

·     Where did Aaron die?

In the Mount Hor 

 “Moses did as the Lord had commanded; they went up Mount Hor in the sight of the whole congregation. Moses stripped Aaron of his vestments, and put them on his son Eleazar; and Aaron died there on the top of the mountain.…”[44]   

In Moserah 

“The Israelites journeyed from Beeroth-bene-jaakan to Moserah. There Aaron died, and there he was buried; his son Eleazar succeeded him as priest.”[45]
 
·     Which (How manyth) son is David of Jesse?

Eighth 

“Jesse made seven of his sons pass before Samuel, and Samuel said to Jesse, ‘The Lord has not chosen any of these.’ Samuel said to Jesse, ‘Are all your sons here?’ And he said, ‘There remains yet the youngest, but he is keeping the sheep.’” [46]

Seventh 

“Jesse became the father of … David the seventh …”[47]

·     Did Michal have a child or not?

“She had no child”  

“And Michal the daughter of Saul had no child to the day of her death.”[48]

“She had five sons” 

“The king took … the five sons of Michal[49] daughter of Saul, whom she bore to Adriel …”[50]
 
·     Who incited David against counting people?

“God incited David” 

“Again the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, ‘Go, count the people of Israel and Judah.”[51]
 
“Satan incited David” 

 “Satan stood up against Israel, and incited David to count the people of Israel.”[52]

·     The number of soldiers from Israel and Judah[53]

“800.000 Israel soldiers and 500.000 Judah soldiers” 

“Joab reported to the king the number of those who had been recorded: in Israel there were eight hundred thousand soldiers … and those of Judah were five hundred thousand...”[54]
 
“1.100.000 Israel soldiers and 470.000 Judah soldiers”

 “Joab gave the total count of the people to David. In all Israel there were one million one hundred thousand men … and in Judah four hundred and seventy thousand...”[55]
 
·        What did David take from Hadadezer? 

“One thousand seven hundred horsemen” 

“David took from him one thousand seven hundred horsemen, and twenty thousand foot-soldiers.”[56]
 
“One thousand chariots, seven thousand cavalry” 

 “David took from him one thousand chariots, seven thousand cavalry, and twenty thousand foot-soldiers.”[57]

·        The names of the cities where bronze was taken

Betah and Berothai: 

“From Betah and from Berothai, towns of Hadadezer, King David took a great amount of bronze.”[58]
 
Tibhath and Cun : 

“From Tibhath and from Cun, cities of Hadadezer, David took a vast quantity of bronze...”[59]  


·        Horses of  Solomon

“40.000 stalls” 

“Solomon also had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots...”[63]  

“4.000 stalls” 

“Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots...”[64]

·        The number of supervisors working in the construction of the temple
“3.300 supervisors” 

“Solomon also had seventy thousand labourers and eighty thousand stonecutters in the hill country, besides Solomon’s three thousand three hundred supervisors who were over the work.”[65]  

“3.600 supervisors” 

 “Solomon conscripted seventy thousand labourers and eighty thousand stonecutters in the hill country, with three thousand six hundred to oversee them.”[66]  

·     Thickness and volume of the cast sea

“Its thickness was a handbreadth, it held 44.000 litres” 

 “Its thickness was a handbreadth; its brim was made like the brim of a cup, like the flower of a lily; it held two thousand baths (approximately 44.000 litres).”[67]
 
“Its thickness was a handbreadth, it held 66.000 litres” 

“Its thickness was a handbreadth; its rim was made like the rim of a cup, like the flower of a lily; it held three thousand baths (approximately 66.000 litres).”[68]
 
·     How many days did the festival last?

14 days 

“And Solomon proceeded to carry on that time the festival and all Israel with him, a great congregation from entering in of Ha’math down to the torrent valley of Egypt, before Jehovah our God seven days and another seven days, fourteen days”[71]

7 days 

“At that time Solomon held the festival for seven days.”[72]
 
·     The number of the chief officers of Solomon

“550 people”  

“These were the chief officers who were over Solomon’s work: five hundred and fifty, who had charge of the people who carried on the work.”[73]
 
“250 people” 

“These were the chief officers of King Solomon, two hundred and fifty of them, who exercised authority over the people.”[74]
 
·     How old was Jehoiachin when he became king?

“18 years old”  

“Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign; he reigned for three months in Jerusalem.”[75]
 
“Eight years old” 

“Jehoiachin was eight[76] years old when he began to reign; he reigned for three months and ten days in Jerusalem.”[77]

·     How old was Ahaziah when he became king?

“Twenty-two years old” 

“Ahaziah was twenty-two years old[78] when he began to reign; he reigned for one year in Jerusalem.”[79]

“Forty-two years old”  

“Ahaziah was forty-two years old when he began to reign; he reigned for one year in Jerusalem.”[80]
 
·     Was the name of the king Azariah or Uzziah?

Azariah  

“King Azariah son of Amaziah of Judah began to reign ... He was sixteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned for fifty-two years in Jerusalem. His mother’s name was Jecoliah of Jerusalem.”[81]  

Uzziah  

“Then all the people of Judah took Uzziah, who was sixteen years old, and made him king to succeed his father Amaziah … he reigned for fifty-two years in Jerusalem. His mother’s name was Jecoliah of Jerusalem.”[82]

·     Another bizarre dilemma

Wine should be drunk by poor people not by kings.

“It is not for kings to drink wine, or for rulers to desire strong drink; or else they will drink and forget what has been decreed … and will pervert the rights of all the afflicted. … Give strong drink to one who is perishing, and wine to those in bitter distress; let them drink and forget their poverty, and remember their misery no more.”[83]    

Yusuf Ulucan

Translation: H. Neslihan Demiriz



[1]Genesis : 2 / 2 – 3
[2] Isaiah: 40 / 28
[3] 2 Kings: 5 / 15
[4] Romans: 3 / 29
[5] 1 Samuel: 15 / 10 – 11
[6] God himself says that he regretted and the person narrating these sentences states that God won’t change his mind. This is a total dilemma.
[7]1 Samuel: 15 / 28 – 29
[8] 1 Samuel: 15 / 35
[9] Deuteronomy: 5 / 24
[10] Genesis: 32 / 30
[11]John: 5 / 37
P.S. In Qur’an it is stated that “Vision perceives Him not, but He perceives [all] vision” (al-An’am (6): 103). Seeing Allah is one of the debated subjects among Muslim scholars. Sunni Islam members think that it is very difficult to understand the real meaning of the ayah. While some of the scholars claim that “it is impossible to see in this world”, some claim that He will be seen in the after death world” with regard to al-Qiyamah (75): 23 and to a hadith from Sahih-al Bukhari with the meaning of “you will clearly see Allah just like you see the sun and the moon when there is no cloud.” And according to Moutazilah opinion He will never be seen at all. (Look: Maududi, Tafheem-al-Qur’an)
[12] Psalms: 78 / 65
[13] Psalms: 121 / 3 – 5
[14]Exodus: 34 / 7
[15]Ezekiel : 18 / 20
[16]Genesis : 2 / 16 – 17
[17]Genesis : 3 / 12
[18]Genesis :5 / 5
P.S. Christians claim that although he had died spiritually he lived physically.
[19] In Genesis: 7/8 – 9 it is declared that “two and two, male and female, from everything”. And in Qur’an it is stated as “of each [creature] two mates and your family, except those about whom the word has preceded, and [include] whoever has believed." ‘[al-Hud (11): 40]
[20]Genesis : 6 / 19 – 20
[21]Genesis:7 / 2 – 3
P.S. Christians try to eliminate this difference by saying that text should be read more carefully.
[22] The word “Jehovah” is used only some of the versions of the Bible.
[23] Genesis: 15 / 2
[24] Exodus: 6 / 2 – 3
[25]Birthright: It is one of the significant Jewish traditions which requires “the blessing of the first born son”. Especially the ayah “Consecrate to me all the firstborn; whatever is the first to open the womb among the Israelites, of human beings and animals, is mine” (Exodus: 13/2) some sentences in the Old Testament Books emphasize the importance of this tradition. (According to this Ishmael, the first son of Abraham; Esau, the first son of Isaac and Manasseh, the first son of Joseph must have been blessed for God.) However this rule is one of the most violated one by the authors of the Old Testament Books. The birthright of Ishmael was given to Isaac as he is the son of a slave. The birthright of Esau was given to Jacob after the trick of Jacob and Esau’s selling it for a bowl of soup. And the birthright of Manasseh was given to Ephraim with the will of Jacob despite the warnings of Joseph (Genesis: 48 / 17 – 20). If the authors of the Old Testament Books didn’t garble with the text, they would accept the fact that Ishmael is the son of Abraham whom he wanted to sacrifice [this incident is told in detail in Saffat (37):100 – 112)] and therefore the prophethood of Muhammad (PBUH). But Jews falsified their holy book at the cost of slandering Allah and the prophets sent by Him in order to show them the truth. (there are some striking explanations in Muhammad according to Qur’an and The Bible by Abdulahad Davoud, who used to be an Unitarian Christian.) As Muslims do not discriminate between the prophets (in terms of their prophethoods) there isn’t any expression about birthright in Qur’an. On the contrary attributing such a slander to Jacob upsets Muslims deeply.       
[26] Genesis: 25 / 21 – 26 Also look: Malachi : 1 / 2 – 3
[27]Genesis: 25 / 31 – 34 Also look: Hebrews: 12 / 16 – 17
[28]Genesis: 27 / 1 – 40 (abridged).
[29] Genesis: 28 / 9
[30]Genesis: 36 / 1 – 3
[31]Genesis: 26 / 34 – 35
P.S. It is not clear whether the name of Ishmael’s daughter’s name is Mahalath or Basemath and whether Basemath is Ishmael’s or Elon’s daughter.
[32]Genesis: 37 / 28
[33]Genesis: 37 / 36
[34] Exodus: 2 / 16 – 21 (abridged)
[35]Exodus: 3 / 1
[36]Numbers : 10 / 29
P.S. An important Qur’an scholar Hamidullah asks whether several father-in-law names imply more than one marriage. [The third footnote of the 85th ayah of al-Araf (7) in Sacred Qur’an by Hamidullah] As it can be understood from the descriptions like “priest of Midian” and “the owner of the flocks” used for Reuel and Jethro and “Midianite” for Hobab in the book of Exodus, these are used for only one person. Therefore the discrepancy in The Bible is more dominant than the thesis that “Moses married more than once.”
[37]In the book of Exodus when Moses asked God “to show him His glory” God answered as follows: “You cannot see my face; for no one shall see me and live … while my glory passes by I will put you in a cleft of the rock, and I will cover you with my hand until I have passed by; 23then I will take away my hand, and you shall see my back; but my face shall not be seen” (33/10 – 23). Yet, this incident is told differently in Qur’an: “And when Moses arrived at Our appointed time and his Lord spoke to him, he said, "My Lord, show me [Yourself] that I may look at You." [Allah ] said, "You will not see Me, but look at the mountain; if it should remain in place, then you will see Me." But when his Lord appeared to the mountain, He rendered it level, and Moses fell unconscious.” (al-A’raf (7): 143)
[38] Exodus: 33 / 11
[39] Exodus: 33 /20
[40]Exodus: 34 / 18
[41]Deuteronomy: 16 / 8
[42] Numbers: 35/6 – 7
[43] Deuteronomy: 18/1 – 2
[44]Numbers : 20 / 27 – 28
[45] Deuteronomy: 10 / 6
P.S. Christians try to hide this discrepancy by saying that “the geographical knowledge wasn’t very good at those times so Mosera can be the name of the district where Mount Hor is.”
[46] 1 Samuel: 16 / 10 – 12
[47] 1 Chronicles: 2 /13
P.S. Christians claim that “one of his sons can be dead so the number of the children may reduce to seven” or “the author of the book could put David in the seventh place as he loved him.”
[48] 2 Samuel: 6 / 23
[49] The name “Michal” is sometimes changed to “Merab” in some versions of The Bible.
[50]  2 Samuel: 21 / 8
P.S. Christians argue that “Michal” and “Merab” are not the person but they are sisters, and that “the discrepancy is the result of mistake of the amanuensis”.
[51] 2.Samuel : 24 / 1
[52] 1. Chronicles: 21 / 1
P.S.  Christians explain that both are true as “God incited to get the best result” and “Satan incited to cause the worst harm”.
[53] After Jews settled in the west part of Dead Sea and Jordan River after they had immigrated from Sinai Desert to the north, the people remained behind around Samaria are named “Israel” and the people settled in Jerusalem are called “Judah”. After the reign of Solomon the kingdom fragmented into two different kingdoms: The above-mentioned counting took place during the reign of David.
[54] 2 Samuel: 24 /9
[55] 1 Chronicles: 21 /5
P.S. Christians explain this dilemma about the number of the fighters in four different ways:
i.         Counting couldn’t have been completed; the guardsmen of the king weren’t included.
ii.       The numbers were rounded.
iii.     The result of mistake of the amanuensis of The Bible.
iv.     The people who were against the counting gave wrong information to David. 
[56] 2 Samuel: 8 / 4
[57] 1 Chronicles: 18 / 4
[58] 2 Samuel : 8 / 8
[59] 1 Chronicles: 18 /8
[60] 2 Samuel: 10 / 18
[61] In some of versions the word “Syrians” is used instead of “Arameans”.
[62] 1 Chronicles: 19 / 18
P.S. Christians try to explain the contradiction about the Arameans with the mistake of the people who copied the manuscripts.
[63] 1 Kings: 4 / 26
[64] 2 Chronicles: 9 / 25
[65]1 Kings: 5 / 15 – 16
[66] 2 Chronicles: 2 / 2
[67] 1 Kings: 7 / 26
[68] 2 Chronicles: 4 /5
[69] 1 Kings: 10 /17
[70]2 Chronicles: 9 /16
[71]1 Kings: 8 / 65 (taken from New World Translation of The Holy Scripture, Brooklyn, New York, 1981)
[72] 2 Chronicles:7 / 8
[73] 1 Kings: 9 / 23
[74]  2 Chronicles: 8 /10
[75]  2 Kings: 24 / 8
[76] In some versions the number eight is changed to eight[een].
[77] 2.Chronicles: 36 / 9
[78]In Septuagint (Seventies) and Syriac texts there is an explanation that “it is twenty-two” and in Masoretic (Hebrew manuscripts) there is a footnote stating “forty-two”
[79] 2. Kings : 8 / 26
[80] 2. Chronicles: 22 / 2
[81] 2. Kings : 15 / 1 – 2
[82] 2. Chronicles:26 / 1 – 3
[83] Proverbs: 31 / 4 – 7

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